The popular Catholic radio host — I’ve been on his show a couple times — spent part of last Thursday’s show chatting with a deacon candidate, Phil McCarty (from the Diocese of San Jose), two days before his ordination.
Father - Jim - Man - Deacon
“Father Jim, does it annoy you that a man like this gets to say he’s ordained when really he’s just becoming a deacon?”
“When you get ‘fake ordained,’ like the diaconate, do you have a party? Is it really ordination?”
Dialogue - Mark
There’s some interesting dialogue around the 13:00 mark...